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Boston Bombing News: Friends & Acquaintances

It was announced today that a sentencing hearing has been scheduled in the case of Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, now convicted on thirty charges in relation to the 2013 bombing of the Boston marathon and the events which followed. This hearing is to take place on Wednesday 24th June. The sentencing hearings in the cases of four of Tsarnaev’s former friends and acquaintances are also scheduled to take place during the upcoming month.

Dias Kadyrbayev: (Sentencing Tuesday 2nd June.)

Kadyrbayev, detained whilst awaiting trial since April 2013, faces charges in relation to obstructing the FBI’s investigation into the bombing of the Boston marathon. It is alleged that he made false statements to the FBI and also concealed evidence. He changed his plea to one of guilty in August 2014, having entered into a plea deal with the government in exchange for a lighter sentence, and notably, following the July 2013 conviction of Azamat Tazhayakov, a former friend of both Kadyrbayev and Tsarnaev, on almost identical charges.

Azamat Tazhayakov: (Sentencing Friday 5th June.)

Tazhayakov’s circumstances are much akin to those of his former friend, Dias Kadyrbayev, with the exception of having been convicted at trial in July 2013, on charges almost identical to those to which his former friend has now entered a guilty plea and which resulted from similar alleged actions. During his trial, Tazhayakov’s defense attempted to prove that it was Kadyrbayev, and not their client, who was responsible for removing a back pack containing, amongst other items, firework casings from which the explosive powder had been removed, from Tsarnaev’s dorm room.

Robel Phillipos: (Sentencing also Friday 5th June.)

Phillipos, a friend of Tsarnaev and acquaintance of both Kadyrbayev and Tazhayakov has been held on “house arrest” since April 2013 and was convicted in October 2014 on two counts of lying to FBI investigators. His defense attorneys claimed that their client was high on marijuana during his initial contact with the FBI and also succeeded in discrediting the testimony of at least one FBI agent in court. Nevertheless, the jury in this case convicted Phillipos.

All three of these young men were in their late teens in the Spring of 2013. Dias Kadyrbayev and Azamat Tazhayakov became friends with Dzhokhar Tsarnaev during the time all three were college students at UMass Dartmouth. Robel Phillipos had known Tsarnaev since their school days. None are alleged to have had any knowledge of the bombings prior to the event.

Another thing that these three former friends have in common, in addition to knowing Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, is that all three expressed disbelief that their mutual friend could have been responsible for the bombings. With this borne in mind I would suggest that it is likely that all three sought to protect a friend they believed had been wrongfully accused and that the greatest “crime” they may be guilty of is perhaps exercising poor judgement in their encounters with the FBI? Should anyone believe otherwise I would ask: Is over 24 months incarceration not penalty enough, for a non-violent crime, given the circumstances of both youth and no prior criminal record?

Khairullozhon Matanov: (Sentencing Thursday 18th June.)

Matanov is an admitted acquaintance of both Tamerlan and Dzhokhar Tsarnaev. It has been documented that when he recognized the Tsarnaev brothers as the suspects identified in surveillance footage released by the FBI he contacted the police and told law enforcement that he knew both suspects and volunteered contact information for both Tamerlan and Dzhokhar. Matanov was later interviewed by the FBI and was then kept under surveillance by the FBI for a period of over twelve months. During this time the FBI made contact with him on numerous occasions. He was arrested on 30th May 2013 and charged with obstructing the FBI’s investigation into the bombing of the marathon by way of destroying evidence.

In reality, Matanov’s only “crime” seems to have been in deleting files from his computer in order to minimize perception of the depth of his relationship with the Tsarnaev brothers. An understandable, even if unwise reaction, perhaps, in the event of someone with whom he was acquainted being identified as suspects in a serious crime? Again, as in the cases of Kadyrbayev, Tazhayakov and Phillipos, I would ask if Matanov is actually guilty of any “crime”, or is he simply guilty of poor judgement? He has now been held in solitary confinement for nearly eleven months.

On 24th March, Matanov changed his plea to guilty, despite having protested his innocence during the months prior. During this hearing, Judge Young was able to elicit statements from Matanov which indicated that his reason for changing his plea was not that he now believed himself to be guilty as charged, but rather that he believed that a jury at trial, in the city of Boston, would find him guilty regardless.

Matanov, in addition to Kadyrbayev, Tazhayakov and Phillipos, initially stated that he did not believe that the Tsarnaev brothers could have been responsible for the bombing.

Konstantin Morozov, Magomed Dolakov & Viskhan Vakhabov:

None of these three known acquaintances of Tamerlan Tsarnaev are facing criminal charges.

Morozov was detained on immigration charges some months ago and is now believed to be facing deportation. (If he has not already been deported.) It is said that his “immigration issues” arose after he declined the “opportunity” to become an informant for the FBI.

Dolakov, whose identity was until recently concealed, has now been identified as the “third man” who visited the gym with Tamerlan and Dzhokhar Tsarnaev in the days prior to the bombings. It was admitted in court during the Tsarnaev trial that neither Tsarnaev’s defense, who had planned to use Dolakov’s statements to the FBI, nor the prosecution, had any knowledge of this individual’s whereabouts at that time. As the FBI have kept such a close eye on so many of the Tsarnaev brothers’ associates, is this not at least a little curious?

Vakhabov refused to testify in the trial of Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, (citing the Fifth), and was claimed by prosecution attorney William Weinreb to have made “inconsistent” statements to the FBI regarding his acknowledged contact with the elder Tsarnaev, three days after the bombings. If “inconsistent” statements to the FBI in the cases of others who were known to one or more of the Tsarnaev brothers led to criminal charges being filed, one might wonder why not so in this case?

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  • dubinsky

    ” Another thing that these three former friends have in common, in addition to knowing Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, is that all three expressed disbelief that their mutual friend could have been responsible for the bombings. With this borne in mind, I would suggest that it is likely that all three sought to protect a friend they believed had been wrongfully accused and that the greatest “crime” they may be guilty of is perhaps exercising poor judgement in their encounters with the FBI?”

    are you serious?????

    “poor judgment” ?????

    concealing evidence and lying to the FBI in order to thwart an investigation into terrorist murder is no more than “poor judgment”?

    Jane… you’re the one guilty of poor judgment.

  • starrynight

    jane who

  • dubinsky

    Jane24 is the name signed to this post

  • jane24

    My assumptions in the cases of the three boys, (Kadyrbayev, Tazhayakov and Phillipos), as I have stated, (and as you have quoted in your comment), are based on their expressed and documented initial belief that their friend, Tsarnaev, could NOT be responsible for the bombing.

    I am not suggesting that it is a good idea to lie to the FBI, (many attorneys would advise that it is not a good idea to talk to the FBI at all), but that in the case of three undoubtedly scared teenagers it is not particularly surprising that this may have occurred.

    My suggestion is that they may be guilty of foolishness rather than any deliberate intent to impede an investigation. Teenagers are not renowned for their ability to exercise what might be described as “good judgement” in stressful circumstances. Interrogation by the FBI could, I am given to understand, be considered stressful. Therefore I stand by my suggestion and don’t believe this is too much of a stretch…

  • jane24

    More on Morozov, Dolakov, and particularly Vakhabov from Jill Vaglica at WWW:

    http://whowhatwhy.org/2015/05/26/boston-bombing-core-mystery-why-are-feds-not-interested-in-this-man/

  • dubinsky

    jane, concealing and/or destroying evidence can’t be understood as anything but impeding an investigation.

    and even a foolish and sincere belief that friends are incapable of committing terrorism and murder does nothing to remove the criminality of the actions of these young men…….

    obviously, a sincere belief in the innocence of their friends would be reason to aid the FBI

    ””””””””””””’

    ” Do you actually know anyone in this age group?”

    I was once in that age group…and when I was…I was questioned by the FBI when they were investigating a terrorist bombing that occurred in NYC.

    it remains a vivid memory

  • Woody Box

    Jane, please don’t respond to dubinsky. It’s a waste of time. He’s a troll, obviously. Ignore him!

  • Woody Box

    Thank you, Jane. It’s good to turn our attention at DT’s friends again, who are threatened with spending years in jail for nothing.

    And btw, I just have published a new blog entry (in the old FDL tradition to post off topic from time to time):

    First after-blast footage of Martin Richard discovered?

    http://911woodybox.blogspot.de/2015/05/first-after-blast-footage-of-martin.html

  • jane24

    Often easy to overlook just how wide the net was cast in this case.

    Thanks, WB, for this link! (And recommended.)

  • dubinsky

    Well, anybody can be just like me, obviously
    But then, now again, not too many can be like you, fortunately.

  • Pluto

    Hey Donny:

    This has YOU written all over it!!

    http://cdn.inquisitr.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/AZ-Biker-Rally.jpg

    Armed Bikers Set To Rally In Front Of Arizona Mosque

    On May 29, bikers in Pheonix, Arizona, are holding a “Draw Muhammad” contest outside the mosque at the Islamic Community Center of Phoenix, which is where the two gunmen who opened fire in Garland, Texas, allegedly attended.

    Former Marine Jon Ritzheimer, who is organizing Friday’s “Draw Muhammad” contest in Phoenix. Ritzheimer is also asking all attendees to exercise their Second Amendment rights and bring firearms in case the expression of a First Amendment right “comes under the much anticipated attack.”

    http://www.inquisitr.com/2125864/armed-bikers-set-to-rally-in-front-of-phoenix-arizona-mosque/

  • dubinsky

    you’ll have to play with yourself, puppy…. I ain’t dressing up in the raiment that you imagine I wear.

    http://www.meh.ro/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/meh.ro6575.png

  • karenjj2

    Excellent work, Jane. “As usual, ” i should add.
    I thoroughly appreciate this summary of the “disappeared” friends and their imposed silence as to Jahar’s behavior during the days before AND after the Boston bombing during the planned “bomb drill.”
    Jill’s article adds more details that I haven’t heard before. I continue to believe that the brothers were the patsies, the boat sniper screwed up, and the judge tracking Jahar to the hospital and into his room ruined plan C: she arrived before he “died from his wounds; I.e. stopped breathing.”

    9:09 edt 29ma

  • karenjj2

    Thank you, Woody, for your excellent analysis and examination of all the photos and videos.

    this new photo is probably from the ongoing bomb drill. In my opinion (and completely lacking in the extensive research and knowledge that you have), I think the “planned bomb drill” went off exactly as planned; the brothers were part of the “bomb drill” but did not leave the “official” black backpack that contained real bomb. (a tho’t: any damage to the mailbox?)

    whether actual bombs were intended to go off and eventually enable an “emergency military lockdown of Boston” as well is my speculation; but that is what actually happened.

    In Jill’s article, the friend of Jahar’s brother, was one block from where they were cruising during their calm, then panicked drive to the shootout from which Jahar escaped.

    I wonder if they accidentally avoided arrest the evening of the bombing by accepting friend’s invite to go out to dinner; but that would’ve ruined the “military lockdown”.

    just as with 9-11, lots and lots of smoke and mirrors literally and too many moving parts that enabled improvisation by all the actors including police-fbi-military and every other agency looking for points.

    10:05edt 29ma

  • OldGold

    What is next? Are you going to discover the sun is hot.
    No sentient and sane person questions that Martin Richard was killed while standing in front of the Forum restaurant when the second blast occurred.
    Bill and Denise Richard are heroes of mine. Despite the almost unimaginable pain, loss and horror they experienced, the Richards have conducted themselves with extraordinary grace and courage. Their conduct has been exemplary and above reproach. As such, I find your 2 year long questioning of their story and conduct to be extremely offensive.
    That others do not call you out is disappointing.

  • Bluedot

    It does seem to me that actual bombs were intended to go off and killed and maimed people and I know who done it. We are now going to perpetuate a conspiracy theory like 9/11 was really government planted explosives. I even heard one that there were no planes involved. Weird. Oh well, carry on.

  • jane24

    Thank you, karenjj2, and agreed.

    Some of the info in JV’s article was new to me too, and I think yet another pointer in the direction of the theory we both seem to favor.

    I should also have mentioned Ibragim Todashev in my main post. He was silenced permanently and we are no closer to knowing why than we were two years ago.

  • jane24

    Much to question in regard to both of these events imo.

  • Woody Box

    thank you Karen – and yes, the hints for a drill are accumulating; but not everyone involved in the drill was also involved in the crime. The drill was hijacked by the forces who committed the crimes, and the Tsarnaevs were only pawns to be sacrificed.

    But one flew over he cuckoo nest…

  • Woody Box

    og – spare me your sententious rant –

    just tell me: is this woman on the left Denise Richard?

  • dubinsky

    suffice it to say that when looking at wooden-headed obsessive lunacy most people are but slightly offended and mostly wish that the person gets aid and is restored to health..

  • OldGold

    As for my comment being sententious, if the rules allowed, I would excoriate you in a manner that would make Morley’s comments concerning you at Weebly look tame.
    You richly deserved that and worse.

  • jane24

    Motion to preclude introduction of victim impact and testimony, (Doc.593), in the cases of Kadyrbayev, Tazhayakov and Phillipos:

    http://ftpcontent2.worldnow.com/whdh/pdf/150529-kadyrbayev-collier.pdf

    Notable in this document, for me, is the statements that:
    a) ” Dias is, however, not responsible for the tragic death of Officer Collier”, and
    b) (Dias) “could not believe that someone he knew and liked could be involved in such a despicable act.”

    I believe this to be very likely true.

    Thanks to “whiplash” over at TBMB for the link to this motion.

  • jane24

    I am disappointed, OG, that you find it necessary to reference the deplorable conduct of another, and even more so, that you indicate a desire to emulate. If you disagree with the opinion of any commenter on this thread, I would urge you to express such disagreement in a civil and appropriate manner.

  • OldGold

    woodybox’s obscene slandering of Bill and Denise Richard is beyond deplorable. Coarse and profane language in condemning it is preferable to silence. And, is much better than aiding and abetting his offensive conduct.

  • Woody Box

    why doesn’t it surprise me that you avoid my question?

  • mulp

    Well, these guys might get the comfort of finding Dennis Hastert in prison with them for the same reason – not an actual crime, but for trying to keep a past personal relationship secret from the government, which was made a felony with the good leadership of Speaker Hastert. You must not keep secrets from the Federal government no matter how innocent you are.

    And the Constitution ensured that the law applies equally to all, including the guy responsible for the law.

  • jane24

    I see no “slandering.”

  • jane24

    Absolutely no comparison between these cases.

  • jane24
  • OldGold

    What is the point of this nauseous nonsense?

  • dubinsky
  • leftcoast5

    There are more than 3 friends who are paying for the “crime” of knowing the Tsarnaevs. One is Khairullozhon Matanov whose sentencing hearing is scheduled for June 18. Please consider writing on his behalf to one of the following:

    Judge William G. Young
    Moakley U.S. Courthouse
    One Courthouse Way, Suite 2300
    Boston, MA 02210

    Paul Glickman, Esq.
    Glickman Turley, LLC
    1 South Market S.
    Boston, MA 02109
    Mr. Glickman is Matanov’s attorney. If you know KM or have written to him, it would be particularly beneficial to send a letter of character reference for him to Mr. Glickman’s office. These will be shared with the prosecutors, parole board, judge and others involved in his sentencing and future place of incarceration (which I am told will likely be out of state and not at Wyatt where he is currently housed).

    Letters regarding the legalities, such as: questionable charges against KM, the (again, questionable) FBI actions against him and/or comments concerning the government ‘s overreach in this case are more appropriate for Judge Young.

    Appeals for leniency: send to both addresses.

    Thank you for your help with this!

  • jane24

    The article you reference illustrates possible discrepancies in the manner in which video and photographic evidence has been presented in this case.

  • jane24

    An opportunity to take positive action. Thank you, leftcoast5.

  • OldGold

    It does no such thing.
    It has no probative value. None.
    I think “stuck’ is the operative word.

  • jane24

    I think you need to read it again.

    Anything to offer on this week’s upcoming sentencing hearings?

  • EyesWideOpen

    Hastert is a blackmail warning sent to congressional leadership, like an IRS audit only more insidious. The FBI IS IDLE, so they have to create cases for ostensible appearances.

    You don’t go with the program, the screws are turned.

    To wit: Menendez indictment.

    A very vengeful group of lawless perverts in the beltway.

  • jane24

    A point, and considering my response to mulp, below, as perhaps a little hasty…

  • EyesWideOpen

    These prosecutors truly believe they are Teflon.

    In response, Dias’ attorney should file an amended motion, that since Tsarnaev’s prosecutors have a history of planting evidence & removing exculpatory evidence* (Mellin), by inference, the prosecutors on his case have been ill-advised by the DOJ – that their demands carry no weight & are in fact, dicta.

    *an appealable reason for A NEW TRIAL for Jahar, since Clarke failed to do due diligence & inform the court to recuse him from the prosecution staff. Her staff couldn’t find this..or did they?

    “B. Intentional Misconduct Findings
    Based upon the testimony and evidence presented, the district court made a number of findings and conclusions regarding the “responsibility” of the people involved in the trial process for the extraneous evidence reaching the jury. The district court attributed no responsibility to the court clerk or court security officer and no responsibility to any member of the defense team. Rather, the district court attributed sole responsibility for the erroneous submission to Mellin and found that the submission was the result of intentional misconduct on his part. Specifically, the court found that “Mellin [personally] placed the two day planners with the evidence for the jury,” and that “[h]e did this after the lawyers and court clerk had prepared all of the admitted evidence for the jury.” J.A. 2867. According to the district court’s view of the evidence,

    69
    after all of the lawyers and the courtroom clerk completed their review of the evidence, Mr.
    Mellin placed the unadmitted day planners in the evidence box. The unmarked black day planner, inadmissible evidence, did not emerge from the clear blue sky, and land in the jury room. Mr. Mellin had the black day planner last and was well aware it was inadmissible. Similarly, Mr. Mellin’s submission of the whole brown day planner to the jury was an intentional act. Mr. Mellin, after discussing whether he could send the brown day planner to the jury with defense counsel and acknowledging the Court’s order excluding the whole day planner, inserted the brown day planner in the evidence box as evidence for the jury….

    70
    The Court concludes that Mr. Mellin’s testimony indicates much more than a lack of credibility; rather his testimony demonstrates his intent to act outside the Orders of this Court and the confines of the law. In sum, the Court finds that Mr. Mellin’s actions with the day planners suggest that this conduct was not a benign act or negligent error. Rather this action was reckless, and it was intentional.”

    ftp://law.resource.org/pub/us/case/reporter/F3/383/383.F3d.191.03-15.04-8.04-7.html

    http://www.truthinjustice.org/federal-misconduct.htm

    http://thebostonmarathonbombings.weebly.com/government-lawyer-appointed-for-boston-marathon-bombing-trial-faced-allegations-of-professional-misconduct.html

  • EyesWideOpen

    Why are you so insipid?

    Why don’t you just read & STFU!

  • EyesWideOpen

    Ignore them. They are naturally offensive.

  • EyesWideOpen

    Ban him.

  • EyesWideOpen

    You have many screws loose.

  • EyesWideOpen

    Of course you know why. He told his friend what would happen as well.

  • EyesWideOpen

    They are foreign students who had no clue about the powers given to the FBI in the Patriot Act.
    Their impression of the FBI IS IN FILM & TALL TALES.

    They had no clue the land of Liberty & Justice For All is PROPAGANDA.

    NOW EVERYONE IN THEIR NATIVE COUNTRIES has a Cliffs Notes crash course in “USA! USA!USA! for Dummies”.

  • EyesWideOpen

    Jerk

  • dubinsky

    yourself

  • jane24

    Aware of Mellin’s history and thank you for these links.

  • jane24

    Yes. Would like to see more give thought to this.

  • jane24

    Agreed. The US is often not what immigrants, (or visiting students), expect. These boys had every reason to fear.

  • OldGold

    Life is too short for that.
    As for the sentencing hearings, full-throated and earnest contrition is the key.

  • Antonina Paskaleva

    Please sing and share the petition to Ms. Lynch to modify the SAM’s for Dzhokhar so his extended family has access to him. It is very important during appeals. Everyone besides his mom has been cut from communicating with him, and we need to stop this, so he can have a fair and adequate representation. Thank you, all!

    https://www.change.org/p/to-ms-loretta-elizabeth-lynch-us-attorney-general-we-present-a-petition-to-modify-the-special-administrative-measures-that-were-inflicted-on-dzhokhar-tsarnaev-in-august-2013-and-are-still-in-place-today

  • jane24

    Thanks for posting, Antonina.

  • pbszebra

    Thank you for the post jane! It is important to remember all these young men involved. Thanks for the updated information. I apologize for this late entry, but I’ve been away from FDL. I also see from comments below that some things will never change! No matter how hard we try to reveal the truth there will always be some who try to hinder and discredit. Thank you for the information here.

  • pbszebra

    Damn, OldGold, what happened to you? Your comments in this post are very distasteful and wicked, even for you.

    There are many, many people that still have questions about the Boston Marathon Bombings and those people ask questions and point out inconsistencies as they see them. We all have the same goal, to get answers and find the truth. Why can’t you just live and let live?

  • OldGold

    Please advise as to what truth you are trying to reveal concerning the Richard family.
    Precisely, what is it you contest concerning their narrative of the events of April 15, 2013?

  • OldGold

    Because I have a decided bias for reality and an aversion to seeing victims re-victimized by the clueless.

  • pbszebra

    OG, you need to relax. If you see people as foolish, why must you work so hard at trying ridicule? If someone else is the fool, let them be the fool. Your robust determination is not working the way I believe you intend. You are NOT exposing a fool, but rather making yourself look foolish. Why don’t you, instead, use your own obvious experience and knowledge for good. Or are you only here for the fight?

  • jane24

    Thanks for stopping by, pbsz! (And yes, despite the changes at FDL, some things remain the same.)

  • OldGold

    My primary purpose has been to provide legal analysis that informed people as to what was happening, why it was happening and what was likely to occur. How did I do?
    Now, after the trials, my objective has shifted to a degree. My patience and tolerance with the fabulists is much more limited. I simply am unwilling to allow mindless malice directed towards noble victims like Bill and Denise Richard to pass without challenge.
    You must realize that the narrative provided by Bill Richard and the injuries and losses sustained by his family were of paramount importance to the instant case. Bill Richard’s testimony and the exhibits documenting his family’s injuries and losses went into the trial record without objection. That means the highly touted and experienced defense attorneys, Clarke, Bruck and Conrad, plus their team of world class forensic experts, knowing full well how damaging this evidence was, after two years of study, determined it was accurate.

  • pbszebra

    “How did I do?” Well you have done fairly well at accomplishing your “primary purpose” over the last 2+ years, and I thank you for that. Some have disagreed with you and others have agreed with you.

    However, just in this post I have seen a truly different OG and, frankly, it depreciates the attractiveness of your expertise. Although I have “debated” with you more than once in the past, I was genuinely surprised by your comments here.

    I do understand your strong desire to defend the honor of the Richards. Their family has suffered greatly. But the way you go about defending them, with your harsh accusations and distasteful comments, overshadows any dishonor they may have incurred.

    You need to relax, for your own health’s sake, and do not let another person’s words or actions cause you to spout in such a way!

  • OldGold

    As a litigator, day after day for decades, I have battled with far tougher hombres than hang out here. I think I can handle this without fear for my health.
    As to the “fairly well,” you are a damn tough grader. Although I admit, for the most part, given I am not a criminal lawyer, I was the one-eyed man in the kingdom of the blind.

  • EyesWideOpen

    Legal analysis on a real case or a fictitious made for TV movie? Save your goodwill for a real case in state court.

    ThIs was nothing more that a mob hit job, orchestrated by the FBI WHO GATHERERD THE WITNESSES with fabricated & suppressed evidence that told a tale by a psychopathic syndicate of evil idiots, signifying NOTHING.

    The FBI planted the bombs, if there truly were any, & if there were injuries, they were collateral damage. That’s the thinking of a conspiracy of psychopaths, not a pot smoking sleeping-in teen.

    This case is a matter of logic, not legal volleyball.

    Unlike past murder sprees, not one national “legal” consultant went into depth on any tv show. It was all in passing.
    The FBI CONTROLLED EVERY ASPECT OF PUBLISHING & broadcasting.

    Haven’t you figured it out yet?
    The only way to keep “the staff” employed is to continue the FEAR FACTOR!
    Wait til you see what’s in store in the Heartland this summer, now that the NSA has had to remove their outside contractors. ( fractured patriot act has disabled their nefarious activities.)

    Bad news: We will have a series of “lone wolf” attacks.
    Good news: Eventually the FBI WILL SLIP UP. there are a few good guys left who will blow the whistle.

    The question is: HOW MUCH MORE BS DO WE HAVE TO TOLERATE BEFORE WE REVOLT?

    Govern yourself accordingly, Sir.