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Suzanne

Suzanne

I am a host of Late Late Night FDL music and cartoon posts in addition to spending most evenings behind the FDL backstage curtain flipping levers. Used to be a practicing heterosexual but now it appears that I am just a consultant. Avid reader since teaching myself how to read when four. Navy brat and first born so always thinking of the consequences. Double Irish so I usually got caught. Turned my misspent youth around and became that scary thing in your rear view mirror. Retired from the Fremont (California) Police Department after 24 years of sworn and non-sworn duties, including Patrol and the Crimes Against Persons Unit. Currently living on the North Oregon Coast with Token, cutest dog in the world (10 lb category), where I enjoy taking non-crime scene photographs, writing at my own blog, TwoTonGreenBlog, and working backstage at Firedoglake.

112 Comments

  1. dubinsky
    May 23, 2015 at 11:05 pm

    what did you mean about “slinging hash”, tuttle?

    I once had a pound of Lebanese hash sent to me from Hawaii…….I don’t suppose that you might….

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Eif7su3xZQ

  2. dubinsky
    May 23, 2015 at 11:19 pm
  3. Suzanne
    May 23, 2015 at 11:20 pm

    hey dub — tut works in the kitchen at a restaurant…. i’m sure it was a food related reference….. 🙁

    how ya doing tonight?

  4. dubinsky
    May 23, 2015 at 11:22 pm

    real fine and it ‘s always a pleasure, Suzanne.

    how’re you feeling?

    last time I was around, you were getting new parts installed.

  5. Suzanne
    May 23, 2015 at 11:23 pm

    my allergies are kicking my butt — otherwise i’m doing good. was that back when i shattered my right leg? what name were ya using back then?

  6. dubinsky
    May 23, 2015 at 11:26 pm

    rather than answer that question, is Rick the Real Big Guy still around these parts?

  7. Suzanne
    May 23, 2015 at 11:29 pm
  8. Suzanne
    May 23, 2015 at 11:30 pm

    nope… its been several years now that he’s been gone from the lake

  9. dubinsky
    May 23, 2015 at 11:32 pm

    I wish I could express how sorry I am to hear that

  10. Suzanne
    May 23, 2015 at 11:33 pm

    me too 🙁

  11. dubinsky
    May 23, 2015 at 11:35 pm
  12. Suzanne
    May 23, 2015 at 11:36 pm
  13. dubinsky
    May 23, 2015 at 11:41 pm

    I’m quite sure that most everyone would agree with your recollection rather than my own.

    I know that other members of my family did.

    if you’re willing to indulge me further, may I ask if Jane is well?
    I would be gratified to be assured that she is,

  14. TalkingWarrior
    May 23, 2015 at 11:42 pm

    G’evening, Suz, dub, and those to follow.

  15. Chris Maukonen
    May 23, 2015 at 11:44 pm

    Hi Suz.

    ARG…PCnes is driving me crazy. Mostly because it’s a lie. Saying something or not because it sounds good or not because you are afraid of being taken to task for it.

    We had this same thing when I was in group therapy. We called it being Therapeutically Correct. Best way to get a WHOLE lot of feed back from the therapist and group.

    And on the flip, taking everything anyone says personally when 90% ot the time they are only blowing off steam. Far too senitive and at the same time not sensitive enough.

    Oy this country is crazy making.

  16. Suzanne
    May 23, 2015 at 11:45 pm

    as far as i know, she is recovering from hip replacement surgery over the winter. i know how hard it is to bounce back from joint replacement – was good to hear that she decided to go on hiatus to recover – sounds like she is doing what she needs to do and i hope she will be back soon.

  17. Suzanne
    May 23, 2015 at 11:46 pm

    hey tw — how ya doing tonight?

  18. Suzanne
    May 23, 2015 at 11:47 pm

    hey cmauk — how’s cleveland tonight?

  19. Suzanne
    May 23, 2015 at 11:47 pm
  20. Chris Maukonen
    May 23, 2015 at 11:48 pm

    OK. Weather is nice. Sunny and not too cool or too hot. Warm enough to hang my laundry out tomorrow.

  21. Suzanne
    May 23, 2015 at 11:51 pm

    nice. was another grey day today in the 60’s but the weather dood says we are gonna see some sunshine and temps in the 70’s this coming week and may even hit an 80 or two by week’s end

  22. TalkingWarrior
    May 23, 2015 at 11:52 pm

    I’m doing alright. You were correct about ABP last night, except to get my phone to stop loading Java, I have to go thru tech-y steps via WiFi. *sigh*

  23. dubinsky
    May 23, 2015 at 11:53 pm

    thank you. it’s good to hear that she’s recuperating from something orthopedic.

    I picked up some idea that she was absent and unwell and was concerned that it might have been something serious, given her history,

    get well and won’t you come see us, Queen Jane.

  24. Suzanne
    May 23, 2015 at 11:53 pm

    glad it helped. sorry that i don’t know nuthin’ ’bout cell phones and/or java

  25. Chris Maukonen
    May 23, 2015 at 11:54 pm

    But then…maybe I’m reaching.

  26. Suzanne
    May 23, 2015 at 11:55 pm

    i understand and shared that same concern until she disclosed the HR surgery. hopefully she will be back soon

  27. Suzanne
    May 23, 2015 at 11:57 pm

    tis difficult to try to get by in a world where folks enjoy the blood sport of shaming… and just as difficult where one has to be ‘politically collect’ in order to avoid being shamed.

  28. TalkingWarrior
    May 23, 2015 at 11:57 pm

    I don’t know much. It’s learn as you go as with so much of life. But I *may* give the WiFi thing a shot some day.

    Thank you for directing me to the (hopefully) not-too-complicated instructions.

  29. Chris Maukonen
    May 23, 2015 at 11:59 pm

    True. I try to say what is on my mind and how I feel with out resorting to meanness. Sometimes I fail.

  30. Suzanne
    May 24, 2015 at 12:02 am

    it is extremely difficult to deescalate a situation when everyone is being mean and trying to draw blood

  31. Suzanne
    May 24, 2015 at 12:04 am

    i’ve got wifi at home – the internet company talked me through setting it up and that’s about all i know about wifi.

  32. Suzanne
    May 24, 2015 at 12:05 am
  33. Chris Maukonen
    May 24, 2015 at 12:10 am

    This is true. If the other person(s) insists on being mean and nasty, the best solution is to remove yourself from the situation and no longer respond.

    I have witnessed a number of situations here in the comments where that would have been the best solution. Yet was continued on by those who seemed to want to be in it for some reason. Wanting to protect their mean little ego.

    Personally I do not need that kind of thing in my life.

  34. dubinsky
    May 24, 2015 at 12:11 am
  35. Suzanne
    May 24, 2015 at 12:12 am

    ditto

  36. Suzanne
    May 24, 2015 at 12:13 am

    how cool – i had no idea… of course i was only 10 in 64

  37. TalkingWarrior
    May 24, 2015 at 12:14 am

    I wanted to thank you, Chris, for your most recent OE. It explained a lot.

    You were so right about Disqus and phones. FDL, I give a break for growing pains, but Disqus (with some 500 employees) has been around long enough to have come up with some solution for us small-screen folks.

  38. Suzanne
    May 24, 2015 at 12:14 am
  39. dubinsky
    May 24, 2015 at 12:16 am

    sorry to have to inform you that he didn’t win.

    I was an old man of 12 and figured that this wuz gonna be a tough race,

  40. Suzanne
    May 24, 2015 at 12:18 am

    i do remember thinking that maybe … just maybe pat paulson mighta had a chance

  41. Chris Maukonen
    May 24, 2015 at 12:18 am

    Pluck your magic twanger Froggy.

  42. Chris Maukonen
    May 24, 2015 at 12:20 am

    If people voted rationally, he would have been a shoe in.

  43. Suzanne
    May 24, 2015 at 12:22 am
  44. dubinsky
    May 24, 2015 at 12:22 am

    I was in love with that little wiseass and, sadly, never outgrew it.

  45. dubinsky
    May 24, 2015 at 12:24 am
  46. Suzanne
    May 24, 2015 at 12:27 am

    had just started my freshman year of high school during the 68 general

  47. Chris Maukonen
    May 24, 2015 at 12:29 am

    Just graduated High School. Had a bad accident on my motor scooter that put me in the hospital for 6 weeks.

  48. Suzanne
    May 24, 2015 at 12:30 am

    OUCH!

  49. Suzanne
    May 24, 2015 at 12:30 am
  50. Chris Maukonen
    May 24, 2015 at 12:31 am

    Ouch from my hair to my toe nails.

  51. Suzanne
    May 24, 2015 at 12:32 am

    in places ya didn’t even know ya had

  52. Chris Maukonen
    May 24, 2015 at 12:34 am

    As George Gobel would say, “Rougher than a stucco bath tub.”

  53. dubinsky
    May 24, 2015 at 12:34 am
  54. Chris Maukonen
    May 24, 2015 at 12:40 am

    One would think.

  55. Suzanne
    May 24, 2015 at 12:40 am
  56. dubinsky
    May 24, 2015 at 12:43 am

    perhaps someday I’ll grow up and incorporate that bit of wisdom…..hpwever appallingly belatedly

  57. dubinsky
    May 24, 2015 at 12:48 am
  58. Suzanne
    May 24, 2015 at 12:49 am
  59. Suzanne
    May 24, 2015 at 12:54 am

    edited with correct video: loverman https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plHYNe5eV2I

  60. dubinsky
    May 24, 2015 at 12:57 am

    and now for something,,,,,,

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbHeNkqRWtI

  61. bluewombat
    May 24, 2015 at 12:58 am

    Posting…posting…posting from Disqus Land…

    P.S.: Can anyone tell me why, when I log in with Disqus, I get a message from my browser (White Hat Aviator, a good privacy-focused browser) asking me if I want to exit the browser?

  62. Pluto
    May 24, 2015 at 12:58 am

    Hey, TW. I’ve been away, but now that I’m back, I’m really glad to see you have your name back.

  63. dubinsky
    May 24, 2015 at 12:58 am

    too many trumpets
    for one heart
    to be crying

    an embarrassment of riches

  64. Suzanne
    May 24, 2015 at 12:59 am

    hey blue — how’s la county tonight? i have no idea – i use firefox for a browser and had not heard of white hat until you mentioned it

  65. Suzanne
    May 24, 2015 at 12:59 am

    hey pluto — how ya doing tonight?

  66. Pluto
    May 24, 2015 at 1:03 am

    Hi all. It’s always nice to crash the party with an interesting picture. So here you go.

    Hiya, Suzanne.

  67. Suzanne
    May 24, 2015 at 1:05 am

    my spidey sense was tingling and i thought it was a possible … always a pleasure

  68. Suzanne
    May 24, 2015 at 1:05 am

    jeebus

  69. TalkingWarrior
    May 24, 2015 at 1:10 am

    Evenin’, Pluto. Wondered if Disqus had gotten to you, too.

    Good to see your fonts.

  70. dubinsky
    May 24, 2015 at 1:16 am

    are you working on commission or are you an owner?

  71. bluewombat
    May 24, 2015 at 1:17 am

    Ah, I found my post and your response to it…Still haven’t found my sea legs in Disqus Land.

    Short of Tor, my impression is that White Hat Aviator is the best browser for privacy. It’s not as big or as well-known as Firefox.

    Eight workdays until retirement. My colleagues had a lunch for me yesterday. It was nice — am not that much of an extrovert, so was a little uncomfortable going in, but it went well.

  72. Suzanne
    May 24, 2015 at 1:19 am

    i’m still figuring it out myself blue.

    8 workdays! wow, i remember that countdown. how nice of your colleagues. i’m only an extrovert online so i understand – glad it went well

  73. Suzanne
    May 24, 2015 at 1:19 am

    i think we are all owners…. its the congresscritters who work on commission

  74. Pluto
    May 24, 2015 at 1:19 am

    I just found out today that the United States — the whiney-ass-titty-baby of the world, literally — still has sanctions on Venezuela — because it is a “threat” to US security. The Pentagon is really, really “skeered!”

    Pepe Escobar published a neat little summary on the New World Order of South America:

    It started in April with a rash of deals between Argentina and Russia during President Cristina Kirchner’s visit to Moscow.

    And it continues with a $53 billion investment bang as Chinese Premier Li Keqiang visits Brazil during the first stop of yet another South American commercial offensive – complete with a sweet metaphor: Li riding on a made in China subway train that will ply a new metro line in Rio de Janeiro ahead of the 2016 Olympics.

    Where is the US in all this? Nowhere; little by little, yet inexorably, BRICS members China – and in a smaller measure, Russia – have been no less than restructuring commerce and infrastructure all across Latin America.

    Countless Chinese commercial missions have been plying these shores non-stop, much as the US did between World War I and II. In a key meeting in January with Latin American business leaders, President Xi Jinping promised to channel $250 billion for infrastructure projects in the next 10 years….

    The star of the whole show is undoubtedly the proposed $30 billion, 3,500 kilometer-long, Atlantic-Pacific mega-railway, that is slated to run from the Brazilian port of Santos to the Peruvian Pacific port of Ilo via Amazonia….

    Venezuela, under US sanctions, is considered a threat to US national security – something that does not even qualify as a bad joke.

    http://rt.com/op-edge/261237-brics-us-south-america-russia/

  75. Suzanne
    May 24, 2015 at 1:26 am
  76. dubinsky
    May 24, 2015 at 1:29 am

    the sanctions on Venezuela are recent (just about 60 days old ) and not because the US feels threatened by Venezuela but because Venezuela has been steadily increasing the denial of political rights to its own citizens.

    Pepe is always fun and interesting and often half truthful

  77. dubinsky
    May 24, 2015 at 1:32 am
  78. Pluto
    May 24, 2015 at 1:33 am

    I actually worked on the program back in the day, when it was first designed as collaborative work-group software.

    It’s pretty dumbed down, now. And the need to hand-code html is tedious — but it is ubiquitous. I just discovered today that my Disqus ‘membership’ allows me to downrate CNN comments. (And only because I clicked a down-arrow in a fit of pique.) Who knew we would have this kind of “power” across the Internet?

  79. Suzanne
    May 24, 2015 at 1:35 am

    LOL — thanks dub — nice to know i still occasionally ‘got it’

  80. Suzanne
    May 24, 2015 at 1:36 am

    charlie and dizzy atmosphere — dizzy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnhIrr4svqs

  81. Pluto
    May 24, 2015 at 1:41 am

    I found it uplifting that the Pentagon spent more on eggs than drones in 2012. They even spent 9 times as much on jockey shorts.

    Permanent war is expensive! And, it leaves skid marks.

  82. Suzanne
    May 24, 2015 at 1:42 am

    permanent war is a money maker

  83. Suzanne
    May 24, 2015 at 1:45 am

    i’m gonna head out folks … please play nicely in my absence and don’t forget to turn down the lights when ya are done for the night

    g’nite all – happy dreams

  84. Pluto
    May 24, 2015 at 1:47 am

    US citizens do not even have the civil right to vote in a Federal election. They been stripped of privacy rights by the patriot act. And US citizens are subject to torture. Furthermore, USians do not even have basic human rights that most of the rest of the world enjoys, such as the right to food, shelter or health care. Like they do in Venezuela.

    They put sanctions on Venezuela because they are seeking regime change — because Venezuela’s oil is owned by citizens — like 93 percent of all the oil pumped in the world is. Nationalized oil is the “threat” to US security. Nothing else. Our Overlords don’t want the braindead American people to get any ideas.

    Speaking of braindead:

    According to the U.S. government’s National Center for Education Statistics (NCES), 33 per cent of American eighth graders currently believe that Canada is a dictatorship….

    Today’s news. Soon, they will vote, along with rest of the clueless Americans.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2015/05/23/survey-suggests-that-one-third-of-us-8th-graders-believe-that-canada-france-and-australia-are-dictatorships/

  85. dubinsky
    May 24, 2015 at 1:51 am

    really, citizens in the US can’t vote in federal elections?

    do they still hold them?

  86. TalkingWarrior
    May 24, 2015 at 1:51 am

    I fear the true power lies in the hands of those who keep track of what we like and don’t, by mistake or intention. The Watchers Watch. That’s their role in this.

    Edit: Disqus now “owns” our comments, too, iirc.

  87. Pluto
    May 24, 2015 at 1:57 am

    A money maker, but not for thee or me.

  88. dubinsky
    May 24, 2015 at 1:57 am

    good night.

    it’s been fun and I do think that I’m gonna

    https://a2-images.myspacecdn.com/images03/1/17000e1331c8466e8fb0efc63616d444/300×300.jpg

  89. Pluto
    May 24, 2015 at 2:04 am

    People have no constitutional right to vote in Federal elections.

    That’s a states right, with each crazy state in control. (And, with NO Federal oversight, as per a recent SCOTUS decision.)

    The civil rights situation is much, much better in Venezuela.

  90. TalkingWarrior
    May 24, 2015 at 2:09 am

    I did not know that. But I don’t recall voting mentioned in the Constitution, except for electoral college stuff. Hmm.

    It is (some) states that take away the right to vote of those convicted of certain crimes.

  91. Pluto
    May 24, 2015 at 2:10 am

    Strident, Suzanne, Endlessly strident. Can’t find my chill pills.

  92. TalkingWarrior
    May 24, 2015 at 2:11 am

    G’night, Suz. Thanks.

  93. starrynight
    May 24, 2015 at 2:13 am

    goodnight snaggle puse

  94. starrynight
    May 24, 2015 at 2:26 am
  95. Pluto
    May 24, 2015 at 2:37 am

    Yeah. I did a treatise on that. It’s pretty common knowledge among constitutional scholars, the world over. USians have very few civil rights. No other nation in the world has such a stingy, right-adverse, constitution. Of course, it was written to benefit slaveholders, hence the easy takeover of the nation by the corporations. Now it doesn’t matter who votes. Only corporations can meet the threshold for winning federal elections. Albert Einstein pointed that out in the late 1950s.

    If people were well-informed in the US — and not terrified of reality — everything would change.

  96. dubinsky
    May 24, 2015 at 2:47 am

    good night Pluto.

    hope to see you tomorrow

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyCAZRKXaQk

  97. May 24, 2015 at 2:47 am

    Mahalo, Suz, for the host and post tonite…! 😉

  98. TalkingWarrior
    May 24, 2015 at 2:51 am

    Aloha, CT. How’d the hash you slung tonight turn out? Busy?

  99. May 24, 2015 at 2:53 am

    Aloha, TW…! No complaints from the customers…! 😉

    Not as busy as expected for a Memorial Day weekend…!

  100. TalkingWarrior
    May 24, 2015 at 2:57 am

    I think for the same reason folks aren’t spending as much on other things – we don’t have the moolah. 🙁

  101. starrynight
    May 24, 2015 at 3:00 am

    tuttle get your rest

  102. Alice X
    May 24, 2015 at 3:01 am

    Bullshit

    Venezuela has a democratic process, the former power elites feel disenfranchised.

    In fact they are treated equality, that is what they don’t like.

    They want special privilege.

  103. May 24, 2015 at 3:08 am

    *heh* I’m still wired for sound, starry…! 😉

  104. Alice X
    May 24, 2015 at 3:11 am

    Joe Henderson – Joanne Brackeen

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khOd1oRCXPA

  105. dubinsky
    May 24, 2015 at 3:14 am

    it’s great that the former fat cats were kicked to the curb by Chavez.

    but Venezuela has moved politically in all the wrong direction in the last decade, Alice.

    Chavez instituted a very stacked deck,,,,,, the elections aren’t rigged, the process is. the country was gerrymandered before the legislative elections in (IIRC) 2010 when Chavez’s party received less than half the vote and was allocated a little less than 2/3 of the seats in the legislature. (they had figured they were gonna get slightly more than 50% of the vote and were aiming at awarding themselves the absolute control that comes with 2/3s)

    there are numerous other examples of the corruption of the political system I could wheeze out, including Chavez’s destruction of the independance of the judiciary, but you’re far too intelligent to need me to belabor it,,,,,,

    I’ll just point out that Chavez’s puppet Chief Judge brushed aside the Constitutional provision that required that the winning candidate MUST be on Venezuelan soil and sworn it by a date certain with a ridiculous decision so that a dying man could pretend to another term and that there wouldn’t be another election as required by Venezuelan law…. and the moron Maduro could serve Chavez’s last term without having to be elected

  106. Alice X
    May 24, 2015 at 3:17 am
  107. starrynight
    May 24, 2015 at 3:20 am

    always read for exuberance. life is a celebration

  108. Alice X
    May 24, 2015 at 3:36 am

    Come on dub – where are the sanctions on Egypt, that bastion of liberal democracy? Or China?

    Or Saudi Arabia – they take the prize for liberal democracy.

    But while we quibble about stacked decks, let’s talk about the Electoral College.

    The US has no problem with SOBs, as long as they are OUR SOBs.

  109. dubinsky
    May 24, 2015 at 11:03 am

    wouldn’t argue with the SOB thing, Alice. the US has looked favorably on far worse.

    will continue to say that Venezuela is going the wrong way,

  110. Suzanne
    May 24, 2015 at 3:32 pm

    my pleasure tut