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Kevin Gosztola

Kevin Gosztola

Kevin Gosztola is managing editor of Shadowproof Press. He also produces and co-hosts the weekly podcast, "Unauthorized Disclosure."

  • http://firedoglake.com/ CTuttle

    Great job, Kevin…! Seymour Hersch just published a new bombshell at the LRB…

    http://www.lrb.co.uk/v37/n10/seymour-m-hersh/the-killing-of-osama-bin-laden

    From the Hill… Report: Obama lied about bin Laden raid

  • kgosztola

    That has absolutely nothing to do with the topic of this post nor is it as important as mothers who have lost their sons or daughters because police killed them. Anyways, thanks, but I don’t really want people to discuss OBL raid in a thread about mothers still struggling to find justice and peace.

  • Alice X

    Thank you, what a tragedy.

  • Chris Maukonen

    That was a little harsh. I thought I was the Sultan of harsh. 😉

  • shadow12ea

    reminds me of the Mothers in Argentina who gathered in a square to protest the disappearance of their children. We know how well that turned out for the dictators there. Perhaps American government officials ought to take note.

  • jane24

    A poignant reminder on this day.

    shadow12ea: A good thought.

  • ooddballz

    Why are they not complaining about the other blacks that are killing each other in the hood?
    Why are they not TEACHING their children how to NOT be thugs and criminals.
    Why are they NOT teaching their children how to interact with the police in such a manner as to NOT need to be shot?

    Maybe they should look to THEMSELVES to solve their problems instead of blaming others.

  • PatriciaDonalds

    ~ Our good, brave, honest police officers and agents with integrity deserve not only better training and standards, but leaders that lead by good example in their agencies for their officers to follow. It is up to the management to weed out the bad apples and when one of their own breaks the law or their own code of conduct or ethics, or even a mistake, it is their superiors that have to take responsibility and hold them accountable. The lives of all law enforcement officers are in their care. As are the lives of the public. People want the Truth.

    ~ Bad cops lie, falsify reports, plant evidence, use excessive force, flat out lie under oath in a court of law. And never even blink.

    ~ And good ones sometimes feel like they have to also and break their own code of ethics and conduct to cover for the bad ones. Or otherwise be labeled a rat and face retaliation. If any officer breaks the Law, Code of Conduct or Ethics, he should not be shielded by the Police Bill of Rights.

    ~ What is more concerning and a national security threat, is what the bad apples do off duty, or on duty but off camera……………….?

    ~ Yes, polygraphs can be beat. Yes, the are inadmissable in court. Yes, they are only as good as the examiner. But if used as a tool to weed out the bad apples, and protect the good cops, maybe they would think twice before breaking the very laws they were sworn to uphold.

    ~ All Levels of Law Enforcement have for decades felt that the polygraph is a much needed and essencial part of the hiring process. Why not change Policy that Polygraphs and Psych Evals for new Hires expire every 5yrs? (Including applicants for higher ranking positions)

    ~ National Institute of Ethics: Police Code of Silence – Facts Revealed http://www.aele.org/loscode2000.html

    ~- Police Corruption and Misconduct legal definition http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Police+Corruption+and

    ~ National Instititute of Justice: Police Discipline: A Case for Change http://www.nij.gov/publications/pages/publication-detail.aspx?ncjnu

    ~ The Cato Institute’s National Police Misconduct Reporting Project http://www.policemisconduct.net/

    ~ Police Misconduct and ‘Law Enforcement Officers’ Bill of Rights’ Laws | Cato @ Liberty http://www.cato.org/blog/police-misconduct-law-enforcement-officers

    ~ Center for Investigative Reporting ~ “Crossing the line: Corruption at the border” – http://bordercorruption.apps.cironline.org/

    ~ DoD: Random Lie-Detector Tests Increase Personnel Security https://sm.asisonline.org/Pages/dod-random-lie-detector-tests-incre… (“the polygraph is the single most effective tool for finding information people were trying to hide.”)

    ~ Federal, State and Local Governments (including police) are excluded from the Polygraph Act of 1988. http://www.dol.gov/whd/regs/compliance/whdfs36.htm

    ~ Break the Code. Break the Culture.

  • marym

    It’s difficult to reconcile the broad cultural scope of the problem, including police forces all across the country; many aspects of the (mal)functioning of the legal system, not just the issue of truthful testimony; the focus of mainstream media news coverage; the glorification of authoritarian and violent police and military in the entertainment culture; and the kinds of blame-the-victim commentary we often see when there’s a prominent case; with a few “bad apples.”

  • marym

    Cops murdering children, mentally ill people, people not
    committing any crime, unarmed people, babies in their beds, handcuffed people,
    people lying face down on the ground, is related to being raised in a culture
    of lawlessness, violence, and lack of accountability – of the murderers, not
    their victims.

    There may be websites where your formulaic, hit all the
    right-wing racial stereotype blame-the-victim talking points, including the
    CAPS, is considered a contribution to the discussion, but people who care about
    solving the serious problems of racist, violent, unaccountable policing see these
    talking points for what they are – shameful contributions to the problem and
    barriers to ever finding solutions.