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Michael Ratner Catches Us Up on NSA News, Gets Closer to Abolition

From TRNN; first, the last two and a half minutes of the interview:

“And as I said, I can’t stand the gushing about it. It’s important what Edward Snowden has done, that people are starting to react to it, that we’re starting to get some people talking about reforms. But the worst situation here would be to have superficial reforms, and then the country goes to sleep on the mass spying that’s still occurring.

As I said, the NSA has to be torn apart root and branch. It basically has to be gotten rid of. We have to start over and say, what’s necessary here? And what’s necessary can only be necessary in terms of surveillance with a court order, a warrant that allows such surveillance under the stringent standards of our Fourth Amendment. We can’t have this open and notorious mass spying.

So we’re moving along: a court decision, amnesty possible or at least talked about for Ed Snowden. But in terms of thinking of this review or this report as a panacea, let’s not go there.”

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Michael Ratner Catches Us Up on NSA News, Gets Closer to Abolition

From TRNN; first, the last two and a half minutes of the interview:

 

 

“And as I said, I can’t stand the gushing about it. It’s important what Edward Snowden has done, that people are starting to react to it, that we’re starting to get some people talking about reforms. But the worst situation here would be to have superficial reforms, and then the country goes to sleep on the mass spying that’s still occurring.

As I said, the NSA has to be torn apart root and branch. It basically has to be gotten rid of. We have to start over and say, what’s necessary here? And what’s necessary can only be necessary in terms of surveillance with a court order, a warrant that allows such surveillance under the stringent standards of our Fourth Amendment. We can’t have this open and notorious mass spying.

So we’re moving along: a court decision, amnesty possible or at least talked about for Ed Snowden. But in terms of thinking of this review or this report as a panacea, let’s not go there.”

Here’s the whole interview, and I do believe he fiddles around a bit before his final declaration:

Here’s the EFF’s take he values highly, and yes, they sorta support the Leahy/Sensenbreener bill: The USA Freedom Act (gaggable name) or S1559, but the piece Ratner mentions is titled, “A Floor, Not a Ceiling: Supporting the USA FREEDOM Act as a Step Towards Less Surveillance:”

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