My stance is that we have a good President making a terrible mistake, and admit I could be wrong about it being a mistake. That is, if among other things, Obama gets hawks to stop opposing harsh Muslim values as the main reason for supporting the war.

The belief that the West is out to oppose Muslim values is why those Muslims who believe that the war is against Islam, feel that way. I also fear the new America that is loved, not hated, by the world is something priceless that is about to go away.

How can people who agree with the above statement, or similar statements, become a united voice? We who still like Obama, but oppose the war, are a significant minority, and both sides are trying to make us choose. We know that Martin Luther King kept meeting with President Johnson, and it’s now been noted that Johnson had private strong doubts about the war. I wonder if a support Johnson but not the war movement took off, whether the war not the great society would have ended during his term.

Much of the Muslim world is both angry at al Qaeda and also hates the idea of the US imposing Western values, which is why President Obama went along with the idea of Sharia Law in the Swat Valley of Pakistan, much to the chagrin of many Americans, whether hawks or doves.

Spanish Muslim clerics on the anniversary of the Madrid backpack bombing called bin Laden a heretic. Dr Fadl a fundamentalist, who supported the concept of holy war elsewhere, condemned al Qaeda for destroying the most holly Shiite Golden Dome, causing tit-for-tat reprisals that caused millions of Shiite and Sunni in Iraq to flee their neighborhoods or die.

Hamas and al Qaeda hate each other, so do Iran and al Qaeda. It wasn’t even news in the US when al Qaeda, 11/17/09, declared war on Iran. Please, both hawk and dove, click on the following for look an amazingly different perspective,
http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=75663&sectionid=351020101
http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/50581,news-comment,news-politics,iran-neocon-ally-war-al-qaeda-and-the-taliban-obama-gordon-brown-afghanistan-israel
http://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2009/08/hamas_and_al_qaeda_l.php
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/egypt/4736358/Al-Qaeda-founder-launches-fierce-attack-on-Osama-bin-Laden.html
Sort of off the subject, http://seminal.shadowproof.wpengine.com/diary/16402

After Nidal Hasan’s rampage at Fort Hood, many wanted Muslim recruits removed from the army, not noting the desperate need for Arabic translators. During the Cold War, Condoleezza Rice learned Russian just so she could understand and oppose Communism better. The pursuit victory is hopeless no matter what unless someone pays close attention.

I’m sure Obama. from his unique perspective, sees something I don’t. Maybe I’m wrong about the war, providing Obama can convince Americans to be more interested in a far off war then health care here a home, and can make Americans willing to go along with Sheria Law where Muslims want it, etc, etc.

I am saddened that so many fellow antiwar activists during Bush are starting to believe Obama is an evil man. Does anyone else have anything to add that will make it less likely that the war will destroy the new America the world is beginning to love again?

By Richard Kane
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I'm retired in Philadelphia. Non religious but there seems to be a life force that I see as more personal than is usually expressed.

I was raised a Quaker (common with Christian Jewish intermarriage back them) But my father was a total pacifist and during World War II, at the time that being so was difficult.

Upbringing included father trying not to get physical, yet still defend us kids from my harsh stepmother until she got her citizenship papers, after which they could get divorced. Been involved in peace issues since the anti-fallout shelter protests through Vietnam and Iraq.

I wrote "Greedy Little Squirrels and Lifeboat ethics,” 1977, when the Moonies were coming to America and got heavily harassed by them. I also think bin Laden is extremely dangerous like the leader of a barroom brawl, who has been manipulating this country into using the US to get Muslims angry enough to join his suicidal permanent war group. Before 9/11 young Muslims rebelled by wearing by covering their hair a little less than expected and at least winking at each other, now he changed rebellion into being militancy. The Northern Alliance would have been legitimately in charge long ago had he not baited the US into entering Afghanistan.

Obama is making a mistake in my mind with how to stop bin Laden’s dream of permanent war in a divided world but less of a mistake than most anyone else would. If due to currency collapses from out ever more expensive weapons the US stops fighting al Qaeda, then other counties will. If it ends up being Iran, the Sunni Shiite divide will be enormous. Al Qaeda is already convinced that the atheist China is a serious enemy,
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=al9wM3k5zjLQ and the Russians have fought for brutally and inadvertently convinced far more Muslims than the US did that they considered Islam itself to be the enemy.

I never stopped supporting Jimmy Carter when everyone turned on him and I support Obama as well, but think he will have to use a lot more persuasion and less force if they aren’t going to succeed at bankrupting us. However Obama has tried less force and al Qaeda has started to respond in kind trying to limit the victim’s in the way of their primary attacks.


http://www.phillyimc.org/en/user/richardkanepa
http://capitolhillblue.com/blog/2419
http://www.opednews.com/populum/diarypage.php?did=5163
http://consortiumblog.blogspot.com/2008/10/logic-of-al-qaedas-mccain-choice.html?showComment=1225253700000#c7899683072517641995
Back up reference to above link, http://www.consortiumnews.com/2009/082209a.html
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