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Conservative claims ignorance, says the bestiality argument hasn't been used against gays

Someone please show conservative Donald Douglas how to use “the Google”?

In a response to the still hot-post about the Blankenhorn and Rauch NYT op-ed, “A Reconciliation on Gay Marriage,” he had an objection to this observation that I made:

Sorry to say, our opponents are acting in bad faith. They attempt to sway positions with outright lies, such as conflating homosexuality with bestiality, thus leading to, say, man-goat nuptials, something that has nothing to do with any sane religious conviction, btw. That’s extremism and intellectually bankrupt fear-mongering.

Douglas went on to make this fantabulously mind-blowing statement:

Actually, Pam Spaulding imputes things to the traditionalist side that are virtually unheard of outside of the radical left’s fever swamps? Bestiality? I’ve been blogging about this issue for months, and I can’t recall the word ever being used by conservatives, or anything close to it. Not only that, where Blankenhorn and Rauch eschew taking sides, Spaulding adopts the stance of victimology. But Indeed, those “misunderstandings” on definition of marriage are found among gay rights advocates on the left, not of traditionalists, so her point’s evasive, if not dishonest.

BZZZZT. Wrong answer. I was about to compile a nice set of educational materials for Mr. Douglas, but  repsac3 @ What’d I Say? beat me to it, posted it to Donald Douglas’s blog as a comment and — poof — it was deleted — gasp — what a surprise. But you can see the examples he passed on below the fold.

Um, Donald… You need to pay more attention to the things your conservative brethren are saying. There’s 2 former Republican presidential candidates among the rightwing folks using that very analogy:

From Homosexual Marriage to Bestiality: “U.S. Senator Rick Santorum (R-Pa.) touched off a media firestorm in 2003, when, in an interview with an AP reporter, he suggested that allowing same-sex marriage was a strategic descent down the slippery slope toward acceptance of other perversions, such as incest, pederasty, and bestiality.”

Huckabee: Gay Marriage Could Lead To Pedophilia, Bestiality, Polygamy: “Well, I don’t think that’s a radical view to say we’re going to affirm marriage. I think the radical view is to say that we’re going to change the definition of marriage so that it can mean two men, two women, a man and three women, a man and a child, a man and animal. Again, once we change the definition, the door is open to change it again. I think the radical position is to make a change in what’s been historic.”

Audio: We’ll compare you to anything we want.  And if you call us out on it, we’ll compare you to “spinners”: “Rev. Jerry Falwell Jr. makes the gay/brother-loving/sheep-schtupping connection, and Matt Barber defends it/ denounces anyone who would dare be offended by it:”

California Supreme Court Legalizes Gay Marriage, Polygamy, Polyamory, Man-Boy Love, Bestiality, Necrophilia . . . (The Virtual Abbey)

Kathyrn Jean Lopez: Gay Sex Is Like Bestiality | Oliver Willis: “National Review’s Kathryn Jean Lopez has a Rick Santorum moment and says the reason a bestiality case happened in Massachusetts is because of gay marriage. Conservatism and bigotry, their status as synonyms just hasn’t been officially recognized yet. By the way, Lopez is Mitt Romney’s biggest supporter at National Review, any surprise”

Race for Governor marred by bestiality comparisons: “The contest to become Governor of Colorado has been rocked by comments from a Republican candidate comparing gay marriage to bestiality.”

States to Vote on Incest and Bestiality | Up My Own Ass

You are the weakest link, Donald….goodbye.

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