Counterfeit Expert Alan Chambers Defines True Love.
From the Exodus press release. October 29, 2007
Alan Chambers on LIFE Today with James & Betty Robison.
There’s also transcript on that Life Today page. (Which thankfully saved me A LOT of time.)
For anti-gay interviews, it really wasn’t that bad. It almost makes me think that if the “climate” was right, all these virulently anti-gay preachers would just melt like butter. (At least within the repentant light of ex-gay homosexuals.)
Betty was out having foot surgery, and James seemed very thoughtful, and somewhat forthcoming in the interview. I’m tempted to feel the same about Chambers' approach, but I know his schtick, and he was up to it.
James [Robinson]: Was just getting married the solution to somebody that is battling in that area?
Alan [Chambers]: No, in fact, that only complicates the issue. For so many people, they think the opposite of homosexuality is heterosexuality. If we just fill it with another lust or if we date the opposite sex or look at pornographic images of the opposite sex or get married. When in fact, the opposite of homosexuality is holiness. Heterosexuality won't fix someone. Heterosexuality is a by-product of someone who —
James: Heterosexual problems have to have the same fix.
Alan: Absolutely, it is holiness. We are not called to switch lusts. We are not called to adopt another addiction. We're called to pursue the Lord and to be holy like he is holy and that's the focus.
Because after all, if you’re trying to overcome the desire for human companionship, why would you want to switch it for the desire for human companionship? It just doesn’t make any sense.
James: So were you looking for something beyond sex though? You were looking for relationship, which is why a lot of people who are in the pro-gay marriage commitment situation is saying, what we really want is we want approval of a relationship we're trying to have. This thing is bigger than just the fact that we have a sexual attraction, we want a relationship. Is that what they're in a sense saying?
Alan: Yeah, I think that's part of it but I believe so much that the gay community and those who are fighting for those rights really are looking for legitimacy. They're looking for someone to finally help them feel even better about themselves. Because what I know as somebody who struggled with this issue was I couldn't feel good about myself. I think those who are out there fighting for rights, they are looking for society to say, this is good and therefore they'll feel maybe I am okay.
James: Do you think they would feel better about themselves then?
Alan: No, I don't because what I know is they're looking for something that they're never going to find. They're looking for something in a relationship they're never going to find. They're never going to find what God really intended them to have in the arms of another person of the same sex or in a relationship with a person of the same sex. It is a counterfeit. It is something that meets a need for a while. And if you know anything about counterfeit money, I worked in a bank for a period of time; really good counterfeit spends for years. I think that's really the essence of the homosexual lifestyle. The many homosexual lifestyles that are out there are really a good counterfeit. And people who don't know any better, who haven't experienced the real thing, who haven't experienced that real true intimacy and love relationship, they're not going to know the difference; they're not going to know there is something better. I knew the difference. I knew there was something better and I went searching for it.
James: And you found that in a relationship with God.
Alan: I found that in a relationship with Christ
Nice eh? Our love is “counterfeit,” but it might last a lifetime and we’ll never know it.
Not saying the truth out loud is what I believe Alan Chambers calls “nuance.”
I can honestly search my heart and say that I am honest when it comes to how I have conducted myself publicly whether with a group of Christians, politicians or gay activists. Do I nuance my message–yes, I am sure I do.
I suppose the
anti-gay ex-gay theology is that since we’re too stupid to recognize love from a tin can, it is assumed that we’ll be too stupid to notice when it’s OVERTLY IMPLIED that we are too stupid to notice the difference between our love for another human being and the physical properties of a tin can.