Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff: gays are 'immoral'
[UPDATE: Think Progress has the audio of Pace.
UPDATE 2: I wonder what Pace thinks of Matt Sanchez’s interview on The Michelangelo Signorile show yesterday (see the end of the post)?
UPDATE 3: SLDN’s Steve Ralls says you can send a message politely taking Pace to task by filling out the DoD comment form online, or call the Pentagon directly, at (703) 428-0711.
UPDATE 4: Freeper reactions are below the fold.]
Well it’s nice to see a refreshing, frank, Tim Hardaway kind of anti-gay statement coming from the military leadership, which has presided over countless immoral military acts in Iraq. Way to go.
Gen. Peter Pace, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said Monday that he supports the Pentagon’s “don’t ask, don’t tell” ban on gays serving in the military because homosexuality is “immoral” and on par with having an extramarital affair.
..,Addressing the controversial policy as part of a wide-ranging interview with the Tribune in Chicago, Pace said the military should not “condone” immoral behavior by allowing gay soldiers to serve openly. He said his views were based on his “upbringing,” in which certain types of conduct were thought to be immoral.
…Pace did not address concerns raised by a 2005 government audit that showed some 10,000 troops have been discharged because of the policy. Among those discharged were more than 322 linguists, including 54 Arabic specialists, according to the Government Accountability Office report.
“The real question is: what is moral about discharging qualified linguists during a time of war simply for being gay or lesbian?” said Joe Solmonese, president of the Human Rights Campaign, a gay rights advocacy group. “Our military needs the best qualified men and women who are willing to serve in the military, protect our freedoms and preserve our American values of equality.”
Uh, what does Pace’s upbringing have to do with military readiness and effectiveness? This is not the kind of leadership the military needs when medically unfit soldiers being shipped to Iraq, roaches and rat droppings are in the hospital rooms of wounded vets, and there is a shortage of trained people waiting to serve whose only “crime” is being gay.
Servicemembers Legal Defense Network (SLDN) didn’t hold back and calls for Pace to apologize.
“General Pace’s comments are outrageous, insensitive and disrespectful to the 65,000 lesbian and gay troops now serving in our armed forces,” said C. Dixon Osburn, the group’s executive director. “Our men and women in uniform make tremendous sacrifices for our country, and deserve General Pace’s praise, not his condemnation. As a Marine and a military leader, General Pace knows that prejudice should not dictate policy. It is inappropriate for the Chairman to condemn those who serve our country because of his own personal bias. He should immediately apologize for his remarks.”
…The Williams Project at the University of California-Los Angeles estimates at least 65,000 lesbian and gay Americans are currently serving on active duty and the reserves. Another 1 million gay Americans, the group has estimated, are veterans of the armed forces.
“Regardless of one’s opinion about `Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell,’ every service member deserves respect,” said Osburn. “Secretary of Defense Gates should immediately condemn Pace’s remarks. Their apologies should be swift and sincere.”
National Stonewall Democrats weigh in:
“We expect President Bush to condemn these remarks out of respect for our men and women who are currently serving and dying in Afghanistan and Iraq. It is immoral to send our servicemembers into battle without the proper equipment or plan. It is immoral to deny them proper medical care upon their return and it is immoral to revoke support for our troops based on this misguided policy reaffirmed by General Pace and the White House.
The current “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell, Don’t Pursue” policy is not only immoral, but it creates a threat to our national security by dismissing qualified personnel for political reasons when they are desperately needed to combat the War on Terrorism. It was the wrong policy to enact in 1993, and it is the wrong policy to pursue today. That is why Congressional Democrats have introduced the Military Readiness Enhancement Act in an attempt to fully support our troops and defend the security of all Americans.”
– Jo Wyrick, Executive Director, National Stonewall Democrats
Personally, I think Pace should resign — contact your members of Congress and tell them that.
Anyone who would denigrate the gays and lesbians who are already serving — many openly in their units where their commanding officer and colleagues are accepting — doesn’t deserve to lead. Pace has nowhere to hide on this one. Unacceptable.
John is spot-on:
No, I’d say “immoral” is letting our own injured and maimed soldiers sleep in their own urine when you all knew about it and didn’t give a damn. Immoral is lying to the American people in order to get us into a war. Immoral is sending hundreds of thousands of US soldiers into battle without the proper armor. Immoral is risking the lives of our soldiers by still not having a plan for victory or exit.
Actually, Pace is right in line with the thinking of the knuckledraggers over at WingNutDaily:
UPDATE 2: Military man, darling of Fox and conservatives like Ann Coulter, former f*ck for hire and gay porn star Matt Sanchez was on the Michelangelo Signorile Show yesterday and declared that he’s not gay.
Surf over to Joe.My.God to listen to clips of the show, where he evades questions about DADT, his life in porn, and gay bloggers. Joe:
Signorile was led in circles for most of the interview, getting Sanchez to at least declare that he is not gay, never was, and that he willed himself into erections during all that man-fucking. Set your bullshit detectors on high.
One of the ironies of Sanchez’s appearance, now with Gen. Peter Pace, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff mooing about the immorality of homosexuality, is that Sanchez says he has spoken to the Marine Corps and was told that he didn’t have to worry about getting kicked out. Has Pace been notified of this?What are they saying in the swamps? Take a look…
Nice to see straight talk from a general.
Well, I predict that he’ll be replaced or retired by this time next week.
Uh oh. Somebody is gonna be resigning soon.
Let’s keep Pace.
Welp, he’s done. LOL
whoa, the macacca is going to hit the fan now. But you know, it’s about time conservatives stood up and said it like it was. Now if the rinos get a spine and back him Pace, things might improve.
As a vet (USMC) I admit I don’t support the don’t ask don’t tell policy. I think you should ask, and kick the homos out!
Those soldiers from Sparta sure were wusses, now that I think about it.
Anyway, why would anyone want to defend anal sex?
It’s always seemed dumb to me to put a flagpole in the middle of a foxhole, anyway.
Hip Hip Hooray! Hip Hip Hooray! Hip Hip Hooray! God bless you, Peter Pace.
Oh boy. That sound you hear is the spineless Pubbies running for cover. Unfortunately, the General will be fighting another war shortly, a fight for his career.
Schumer will call for him to resign tommorrow.
Now he’s gone and torn it………. He should ask what the MSM never will: since homos are almost universally liberal, and we all know liberals almost universally hate the military and will not serve, just why are homos so eager to get into the military?
“Anyway, why would anyone want to defend anal sex?” Paging John Edwards.
He didn’t say they couldn’t fight, he said it was immoral.
Gay people have served in the armed forces since day one, what they want is to be open about it. This would undermine moral, send the wrong message to our enemies and oppose the prevailing military culture. Don’t ask, don’t tell is the only policy that allows soldiers to keep their private lives and serve their country if that is their wish.
Well, They asked and he told! Pace is one of Bush’s best appointments yet.
Good for this General. Homosexuality is a sick, twisted perversion on the same level as abortion and cannabilism. Only a society as moral compromised by political corrrectness as ours could possible condone the kind of perversive behavior we “protect” here.
As the good General pointed out, there are lots of heterosexual activities that are immoral also. Unfortunately, heterosexuals like them. That’s why the homosexual agenda is so popular. If we start saying we should care about morality, it’s going to impact a lot more people than the homosexuals.
Homosexuality is a sick, twisted perversion on the same level as abortion and cannabilism.
Are you sure you want to go there? Tell me one religion that calls homosexuality a perversion that does not also lable pre-marital sex the same. I’m not saying you’re wrong, just that there’s a huge can of worms that’s been open for a long time. Homosexual behavior is only one of those worms.
Well, the general did say he thought it was on a par with extramarital sex. I guess he’d be in favor of kicking out soldiers who had extramarital sex.