Tuesday AM Foley roundup
UPDATE: Drudge: the pages made him do it
And if anything, these kids are less innocent – these 16 and 17 year-old beasts…and I’ve seen what they’re doing on YouTube and I’ve seen what they’re doing all over the internet – oh yeah – you just have to tune into any part of their pop culture. You’re not going to tell me these are innocent babies. Have you read the transcripts that ABC posted going into the weekend of these instant messages, back and forth? The kids are egging the Congressman on! The kids are trying to get this out of him. We haven’t got the whole story on this.
…You could say “well Drudge, it’s abuse of power, a congressman abusing these impressionable, young 17 year-old beasts, talking about their sex lives with a grown man, on the internet.” Because you have to remember, those of us who have seen some of the transcripts of these nasty instant messages. This was two ways, ladies and gentlemen. These kids were playing Foley for everything he was worth. Oh yeah. Oh, I haven’t…they were talking about how many times they’d masturbated, how many times they’d done it with their girlfriends this weekend…all these things and these “innocent children.” And this “poor” congressman sitting there typing, “oh am I going to get any,” you know?
Late to the party — HRC, AmTaliban, on Foley
There must have been a shift in the space-time continuum, or the flux capacitor was broken in the DeLorean, but here, finally, is HRC’s statement on Foley. (PageOneQ):
“Gay or straight, Democrat or Republican, it is completely inexcusable for an adult to have this kind of communication with a minor,” Solmonese said of the emails and chats released by ABC News. “Congressman Foley brought shame on himself and this Congress by his horrible behavior and complete lack of judgment. We strongly condemn his behavior.”
The AmTaliban statements are starting to come in now as part of the damage control…
Gary Bauer has released a very careful statement that skirts placing the blame on Hastert and calls for the heads of anyone on either side of the aisle to be punished. Gary, the Dem on the page committee wasn’t told because your friends tried to keep a lid on it all.
“What former Rep. Foley did was unacceptable. This is the case of an adult man in a position of authority attempting to sexually seduce a 16-year-old boy. It is absolutely inappropriate for men and women in positions of authority to exploit those least able to defend themselves.
“I join my voice to House Speaker Dennis Hastert in calling for a full investigation to determine whether anyone from either party knew about the abusive conduct alleged from former Rep. Foley. Minors must be kept safe, and any misconduct reported. That is the law. The American people have a right to expected that their elected officials represent them with the highest personal codes of conduct and with respect for not only the powerful but also the most vulnerable members of our society.”
Actually, Bauer has more to say — he tries linking gays to NAMBLA. Brady at Some Guys Are Normal takes him on.
Daddy Dobson wants to take his ball and go home because no one is talking about the issues he wants on the table. Boo hoo.
“This is not a time to be talking about politics, but about the well-being of those boys who appear to have been victimized by Rep. Foley. If he is indeed guilty of what he is accused of, it is right that he resigned and that authorities are looking into whether criminal charges are warranted. “This is yet another sad example of our society’s oversexualization, especially as it affects the Internet, and the damage it does to all who get caught in its grasp.”
When assessing the legacy of Bill Clinton, we can’t overlook his shameful sexual behavior in the Oval Office, and then, his lies under oath to the American people to cover it up. Indeed, it is my belief that no man has ever done more to debase the presidency or to undermine our Constitution — and particularly the moral and biblical principles upon which it is based — than has William Jefferson Clinton.
I have to give it to Tony Perkins of the Family Research Council. He brought out the homo playbook and trots out some stats from “one study” — from who knows where.
Democrats seeking to exploit the resignation of Rep. Mark Foley (R-FL) are right to criticize the slow response of Republican congressional leaders to his communications with male pages. But neither party seems likely to address the real issue, which is the link between homosexuality and child sexual abuse. Foley, an unmarried 52-year-old representative, had always refused to answer questions about his sexual orientation. Now that his emails and messages to teenage male pages have been revealed, it appears clear that Foley is a homosexual with a particular attraction to underage boys.
While pro-homosexual activists like to claim that pedophilia is a completely distinct orientation from homosexuality, evidence shows a disproportionate overlap between the two. Although almost all child molesters are male and less than 3% of men are homosexual, about a third of all child sex abuse cases involve men molesting boys–and in one study, 86% of such men identified themselves as homosexual or bisexual. Ignoring this reality got the Catholic Church into trouble over abusive priests, and now it is doing the same to the House GOP leadership. They discounted or downplayed earlier reports concerning Foley’s behavior–probably because they did not want to appear “homophobic.” The Foley scandal shows what happens when political correctness is put ahead of protecting children.
It should be noted that a good number of Freepi are concerned about Perkins’ statement.
While the latest allegations are definitely the most egregious levele
d against the former congressman, this was not the first attempt to expose secrets of Foley’s personal life. Newspapers, blogs and chat rooms have buzzed about Foley’s homosexuality for years.
Foley’s situation highlights a controversial practice that has gained traction on the Internet over the past few years — in the blogoshpere and the murky world of chat rooms: exposing, or “outing,” public figures for their secretly homosexual lifestyles.
…Outing is denounced by many activist groups like the Human Rights Campaign and the Log Cabin Republicans, a gay and lesbian Republican grass roots organization.
“We shouldn’t waste time and energy launching personal attack,” said Patrick Sammon, executive director of the Log Cabin Republicans. “Outing people distracts us from what is really important: How do we gain new allies among conservatives and people of faith?”
But some journalists believe outing is their duty.
“I don’t actually call it outing. I call it reporting,” explained Michael Rogers, whose Web site, www.blogactive.com, has reported on Foley’s homosexuality for three years.
“I put it there because Foley had a record that was against the gay community. He refused to denounce his vote on the Defense of Marriage Act. It’s not about being gay. It’s about the hypocrisy.”
Ready to string Denny up
A transcript of Denny Hastert’s press conference is out, and it’s a rambling, evasive affair. You can’t expect support as a leader when you lob out lame excuses like this — he doesn’t seem to know anything and didn’t seem to care about looking any deeper into the matter of whether one of his colleagues was preying upon pages.
This press conference obviously didn’t help matters, since winger Moonie paper The Washington Times has called for his ouster in today’s paper.
— Q Do you think that they asked Mr. Foley if he had e- mailed other pages?
— Mr. Hastert. I don’t know that.
…– Q You mentioned rumors, but reporting had poured out that pages were talking 2003-2004, former pages, about Mr. Foley and inappropriate e-mails. They discussed this amongst themselves. Would it have not been probable if any type of inquiry had been triggered by the Louisiana e-mail that the board or someone from the Clerk or someone might have discovered that there was this?
— Mr. Hastert. Well, I understand that these are pages. I am not trying to beg this question. I understand these are pages that have all left the program. This was after the fact. And you know, would have, could have, should have. I am not sure that we did what we thought — what Mr. Shimkus did, he did what he thought was prudent at the time to do that.[ Yeah, you simply told the perv to stop it. That’s discipline.]
— Q Did anyone on your staff tell Shimkus to handle this without telling Kildee?
— Mr. Hastert. I think he had no — I think he talked not to our staff, but he talked to only, as I understand it, to the Clerk of the House.
… — Q What about Mr. Shimkus or anyone else in the leadership having had any contacts with Mr. Foley before or about this prior to the fall of 2005 or asked him to either moderate or stop his contact?
— Mr. Hastert. I think there is no record of that. To my knowledge, that it is not the case.
Now look at that last exchange. He’s not denying it. He can’t, otherwise, how can he explain Matthew Loraditch, a page from the 2001 class who said all of the pages were briefed to steer clear of Foley. Someone notified the page program supervisor.
The Freepi react to the Washington Times editorial, and see shades of a Dem conspiracy:
He should resign. The Republicans should also be working on their list of Democrats who were also aware of this, and getting those names out there, as well – so that they can resign too.
Hmm, when is Tony Blankly, the writer of this editorial, going to resign from the Washington Times? The human resources director of The Washington Times has been arrested on charges of soliciting a teenager for sex on the Internet.
It’s possible Hastert is also a victim. Evidence indicates it is the Democrats who knew and sat on the info. All this hysteria is playing into the Democrats’ hands.
He has no control over the house republicans much less the full house and he with the majority.
He’s got an R in front of his title apparently. All republicans share a common guilt due to the ‘vast right wing conspiracy’ mentality. Other than that he doesn’t seem to be in any way shape or form involved.
There’s no reason for him to resign over Foley.
There is no reason for Rove to resign over Wilson.
There is no reason for Rumsfeld to resign over WMDs.
There is no reason for Delay to resign over fundraising.
There is no reason for Scalia to recuse himself over his friendship with Cheney.
This is a typical Democrat ploy – if you can’t unseat someone electorally, try to unseat them through the press.
If Hastert caves, that’s weakness in the face of the enemy.
With whom do you replace him, smart guy?
So lets see just how far we can self destruct…
Hastart made a complete fool of himself with the Rep. William Jefferson/FBI fiasco claiming congress has special rights above the law – which was properly crushed by a federal judge.
Strange that the Washington Times is saying this.
Hastert had emails that were not suggestive. Democrat operatives had the instant messages that were disgusting. They’ve had them for a couple YEARS and sat on them.
Democrats should fall on their swords. All of them.
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