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But will the conservatives really stay home?

Dobson and his Arlington Group friends are ratcheting up the heat on the administration but reading this, it sounds like a lot of hot air. It’s probably wishful thinking, but one can dream that fundie voters would just sit out the midterm elections, reading the hysteria below (NYT):

Some of President Bush’s most influential conservative Christian allies are becoming openly critical of the White House and Republicans in Congress, warning that they will withhold their support in the midterm elections unless Congress does more to oppose same-sex marriage, obscenity and abortion.

“There is a growing feeling among conservatives that the only way to cure the problem is for Republicans to lose the Congressional elections this fall,” said Richard Viguerie, a conservative direct-mail pioneer.

Mr. Viguerie also cited dissatisfaction with government spending, the war in Iraq and the immigration-policy debate, which Mr. Bush is scheduled to address in a televised speech on Monday night.

“I can’t tell you how much anger there is at the Republican leadership,” Mr. Viguerie said. “I have never seen anything like it.”

In the last several weeks, Dr. James C. Dobson, founder of Focus on the Family and one of the most influential Christian conservatives, has publicly accused Republican leaders of betraying the social conservatives who helped elect them in 2004. He has also warned in private meetings with about a dozen of the top Republicans in Washington that he may turn critic this fall unless the party delivers on conservative goals.

Wait, what kind ot threat is this? Daddy Dobson’s been mighty critical all along the way, with a giant burr up his butt over these issues. According to the article, the main reason for his wrath, particularly toward the GOP-controlled House, was the passage of the hate-crime bill which would extend protections to gays, and growing support for embryonic stem cell research. Those are the folks up for re-election, and he’s trying to do a little pre-emptive spanking.

“There’s just very, very little to show for what has happened,” Dr. Dobson said, “and I think there’s going to be some trouble down the road if they don’t get on the ball.”

So, what on earth is his plan to punish those who do not bow down and kiss his feet? He doesn’t say anything here. More hot air.

The real bit of interesting business here is that the fiscal conservative wing, also represented in the article by Grover Norquist, president of Americans for Tax Reform, who attended the Council for National Policy meeting that was held this past weekend, is publicly slapping the fundies down, saying the continual bleating about same-sex marriage isn’t helping their cause — it’s clear the voters don’t see “marriage protection” as an important issue, given the way the public feels Dear Leader and the Hill are otherwise deep-sixing the country.

“If the Republicans do poorly in 2006,” Mr. Norquist said, “the establishment will explain that it was because Bush was too conservative, specifically on social and cultural issues.”

Dr. Dobson declined to comment. His spokesman, Paul Hetrick, said that Dr. Dobson was “on a fact-finding trip to see where Republicans are regarding the issues that concern values voters most, especially the Marriage Protection Act,” and that it was too soon to tell the results.

What facts will Daddy D find? And if he doesn’t like what he finds, will he actually ask voters to stay home? This just sounds like fundamentalist dick-wagging to keep his name in the papers and the coffers of fundie orgs filling with dough from the true believers.

I had to go over to the slime pit for reactions…

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Reasonable people know JUDGES are what matter on family issues. Would people rather have Nancy Pelosi nominate judges?

I predict that within a few weeks we will be seeing MANY posts that say: The GOP has been in control for years and Abortion is still legal and we still don’t have a gay marriage amendment and the obscenity on TV and in movies is STILL not under control. Why bother with the people…they are nothing but Democrats in Republican clothing.

And still others will point out that Howard Dean says that Dems support Marriage as being between a man and a woman…and Hillary is going to build that wall! It’s coming.

I sympathize with your perspective…and I agree to a point..yes having a democratic leadership in congress would be a disaster for conservative values. However, republicans can not continue to be ineffective moderate conservatives in name only and expect to continuously have the support of conservative voters. Conservatives are NOT liberals. They will not support blindly indefinately a party that continuously fails to deliver on their agenda items. Whetehr certain party memebers like it or not. This is a reality of te politics of the right. You can not continue to be ineffectual at advancing conservative agenda and expect the base to support you indefinately. Ther have been some very real betrayals of conservative values by the republiucan leadership..eventually the chickens come home to roost and the piper must be paid.

Ummm most of these “Christians” favor illegal immigration and fighting global warming.

But, but, but …….. The First Lady said today on Fox News Sunday, regarding the Gay Marriage Ban that, “I don’t think it should be used as a campaign tool, obviously.”

I agree judges are a huge issue and Bush’s picks of Roberts and Alito are stellar. However, the Senate has been remiss in confirming appellate and circuit court judges. The anti-gay marriage referenda helped motivate conservative turn out in 2004. Yet the republican senate is useless on that issue. I believe immigration “reform” and drunken deficit spending has chapped conservative hides and their tolerance of business as usual by the professional politicos is pretty much over. It feels a bit like 1992 when many a conservative issued a big eff you to George the 1st and voted for Perot. Hope Bush and the Republican congress wake up and get with the program.

Ok, here they go…throwing another division into the mix in an attempt to further divide conservatives and suppress voter turnout. Dobson and Viguerie are NEVER happy. Ever. Picking up their ball and going home is what they do, every two years, at about this time. You can set your watch by them.

I’m really sick of this out and out blackmail.

With respect to judges, affirmative action is inevitably toast given the current make up of the supreme court. Roe v Wade is one judicial appointment away from being overturned. Electing someone like Hillary in 2008, or putting dolts like Conyers and Kerry in charge of all of the committees will undo all of the hard work we’ve done over the last few years. Can conservatives be this stupid? Perot gave us eight years of Clinton, morons!

Yep social conservatives only real issues are guns,abortion and a strange obsession with queers. W has delivered with his picks for the SCOTUS. ut has dropped the ball on day to day governance. Entitlements…spending …tax reform…tort reform…energy …the ability to articulate a conservative agenda. Social conservatives only give lip service to these vital issues. You have to pass their litmus test first. Time for Rudy and let a conservative SCOTUS court do their job.

This is de riguer for Dobson and Viguerie. They make their living bitching.

So they think the cure is to elect Democrats and then they will get abortion over
turned, stop gay marriage and remove all obsenities????? Yes, this is the solution. Unbelievable.

Ultimatums are rarely effective. Constant pressure and voicing dissatisfation through the appropriate avenues generally are more effective. I can’t say that I’m happy on the immigration issue, on spending, on the plan after Iraq, or on the gay marriage issue. That said, it’s a matter of perspective. There is a lunacy is self-flagellation or spitting at those who might best represent your interests–or at least keep those who would work directly against them out of power.

This is politics, Howlin. This is how social conservatives forced Bush to stand down from the Miers fiasco and to appoint a genuinely capable conservative SCOTUS justice. We’ll push just as hard this time around on these other socially conservative issues. I suspect you’re unpappy for the same reason sinkspur and Black Irish are unhappy. You’re social liberals.

If you throw this election to the Democrats, don’t show up here on January 22nd, 2009 whining about abortions for everybody, open borders, spending more money than you can ever imagine, gay marriages and any other nightmare scenario you can think of. Oh, and don’t come whining about how your vote doesn’t count because there is no more Electoral College. Dimbulbs, the lot of you.

Effective politics means bringing pressure to bear in exactly the way Viguerie and Dobson are doing here. You’re complaining because you fear the pressure might prove effective. I hope your fears prove well founded.

Hat tips, Holly and Paul.

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